15^50, 15 always -5en., or 15 in stance What is best? - Guild Wars Forums

Mega Storm · Apr 03, 2006, 03:24 AM // 03:24

I am a big axe collector and want to get the best axes I can find. I have mainly 15^50 axes with different mods for different fighting styles. I recently purchaced 3 axes with 15 in stance efect on them thinking that "Well..i'm always in stance while fighting..so it's 15 always, which is better than ^50 when I am below 50% life" right?..What is the best mod on a weapon?

15 below 50 sucks but isn't as bad as "while enchanted/hexed" if you don't go for that kind of build. 15^50 is great..until the battle gets heavy and you stop cranking out damage..

During fights you're always in stance unless you run so basically...15 in stance is the best right?

Please help me figure this out. Thanks

stickyballs · Apr 03, 2006, 03:34 AM // 03:34

20 below 50 is the highest.
15^50 is the best imo because not ALL builds use stances.

SiLeNt EuPhOrIa · Apr 03, 2006, 03:50 AM // 03:50

15% unconditional > 15^50 > 15% always (-5e) > 15% in stance > 15% enchanted > 20% hexed > 20v50

Remember that some skins are alot rarer than others (i.e. - serpent, stone summit, etc.).

Ideally you'd have either a 15% unconditional axe (with perfect mods) or both a 15^50 and a 20v50 (with perfect mods) which you could keep switching between depending on your current health level.

Hope this helps!

Blind Rage · Apr 03, 2006, 04:13 AM // 04:13

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Originally Posted by SiLeNt EuPhOrIa

Ideally you'd have either a 15% unconditional axe (with perfect mods)

lol i dont think even selling your soul would get you enough money to buy one of them....

Mega Storm · Apr 03, 2006, 04:15 AM // 04:15

Well I like to keep the energy I have for my build so the -5 energy versions just don't appeal to me. The suggested over/under "axe chucks" method seems like a win win to me but not sure i'll go that route. Thanks for clearing some of it up.

I think my main question is this: is 15^50 not as good as 15 in stance?

Wrath Of Dragons · Apr 03, 2006, 04:34 AM // 04:34

i like 15^50 because wether or not you are in a stance, you have bonus as long as you are healthy.

strcpy · Apr 03, 2006, 08:07 AM // 08:07

Money wise the 15^50 obviously are better - just look at any "price check" forum, auction, or trade spam. Basically because the reasons above - they aren't build specific so greater demand.

For your build? If, as you say, you are in a stance more often than you are greater then 50% health do you really need anyone here to tell you which to use? As for the always - run lower than 5 energy more often than you are in a stance or less than 50% health (that is, are you needing that 5 energy)? Again, do we really need to say after you answer that question?

You could also mean best build/weapon combo - but that's not what you asked (and I have no idea the answer there - though I suspect that could go for pages and pages with no real answer

).

"Best", combat wise, will most likely be several different stat axes for different situations (and builds if you change yours much). IIRC there are +20<50, "best" would also need one of them. Though I could be wrong - never found one of those beasties.

AxeMe · Apr 03, 2006, 12:43 PM // 12:43

I think it depends a bit on your style of game play. For me, the 15% stance sword works fine. I also have a 15% always -5 energy. That doesn't present a big energy management problem when used with glads and equipped with a zealous hilt. The hilt really does a fine job keeping the energy charged - I started using the hilt for FOW spider runs and liked it so well that I've changed over several of my axes and swords from vampiric to zealous.

Ole Man Bourbon · Apr 03, 2006, 04:21 PM // 16:21

If you're using lots of stances or enchants, go with those. If not, 15^50. The rest aren't too good.

Boagrius · Apr 03, 2006, 04:35 PM // 16:35

I apologize if I misunderstood your original question, but it sounds like you don???t quite understand the "while in a stance" mod. The "while in a stance" mod means you get the "-2 Damage or +15% whatever" while using a "Stance" skill. It sounds like you were saying "Well. I???m always in stance while fighting. So it's 15 always". "While in a "stance" doesn???t mean when you're just "standing" there fighting. It means when you???re using a "Stance" skill. Again, sorry if you already knew this & I misread your post.

Maria The Princess · Apr 03, 2006, 06:52 PM // 18:52

15 while enchanted is good for team farming, cuz the warior is enchanted 99.999999% of all times. and whoever uses mending....

wsmcasey · Apr 03, 2006, 07:15 PM // 19:15

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

15 while enchanted is good for team farming, cuz the warior is enchanted 99.999999% of all times. and whoever uses mending....

woohoo! I'm the other 1%.

Seriously, 15%(stance) is extremely under rated.

Yanman.be · Apr 03, 2006, 07:15 PM // 19:15

depends on your build.

i rest my case

Rajamic · Apr 03, 2006, 09:28 PM // 21:28

I think overall, 15%^50% is better in PvP for Warriors and Rangers, as they are rarely attacked before the fight is already decided.

In PvE, Warriors generally run several stances to reduce the damage they take, so In Stance is quite good. Rangers can go either way really, since they shouldn't be getting attacked ever, but at the same time, should be using Tiger's Fury at least 70% of the time.

Mega Storm · Apr 04, 2006, 01:44 AM // 01:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boagrius

I apologize if I misunderstood your original question, but it sounds like you don???t quite understand the "while in a stance" mod. The "while in a stance" mod means you get the "-2 Damage or +15% whatever" while using a "Stance" skill. It sounds like you were saying "Well. I???m always in stance while fighting. So it's 15 always". "While in a "stance" doesn???t mean when you're just "standing" there fighting. It means when you???re using a "Stance" skill. Again, sorry if you already knew this & I misread your post.

That's the answer I was looking for. Thank you. I use Berserker Stance, so it works for what i'm doing but I still use the 15^50 weapon set, and I picked up a max gold perfect 20\/50 today too to try that out.

Maria The Princess · Apr 04, 2006, 02:34 AM // 02:34

actually dont forget that if your hp drops below 50% you re in trouble so you better start spamming monk abd run like hell, not calculate damage dealt. so 15^50 is pretty much always, expetfor RARE cases when having like 30% of max hp doesnt bother you when fighting anouther warior or some boss. butnormally youre in trouble.

stickyballs · Apr 04, 2006, 03:25 AM // 03:25

True Maria. 15^50 is good for when you're dealing damage. Unless you've got a build meant to have below 50%, at that point you are:

a) running away
b) trying to heal or get healed

In anycase, most likely you are not trying to keep fighting (unless you are a suicide kinda guy).

Lateralus · Apr 04, 2006, 05:27 AM // 05:27

Have one 15^50 and one 15\/50

Opeth11 · Apr 04, 2006, 05:33 AM // 05:33

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Originally Posted by Lateralus

Have one 15^50 and one 20\/50

Fixed.
^_^

Lateralus · Apr 04, 2006, 05:40 AM // 05:40

oops.

Apr 03, 2006, 03:24 AM // 03:24	#1
Mega Storm Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Iacon City Cybertron Guild: [MEGA] formerly EOE/LUST/LaZy Profession: W/N	15^50, 15 always -5en., or 15 in stance What is best? I am a big axe collector and want to get the best axes I can find. I have mainly 15^50 axes with different mods for different fighting styles. I recently purchaced 3 axes with 15 in stance efect on them thinking that "Well..i'm always in stance while fighting..so it's 15 always, which is better than ^50 when I am below 50% life" right?..What is the best mod on a weapon? 15 below 50 sucks but isn't as bad as "while enchanted/hexed" if you don't go for that kind of build. 15^50 is great..until the battle gets heavy and you stop cranking out damage.. During fights you're always in stance unless you run so basically...15 in stance is the best right? Please help me figure this out. Thanks

Apr 03, 2006, 03:34 AM // 03:34	#2
stickyballs Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: American Servers Guild: Sin Squad [SIN] Profession: W/	20 below 50 is the highest. 15^50 is the best imo because not ALL builds use stances.

Apr 03, 2006, 03:50 AM // 03:50	#3
SiLeNt EuPhOrIa Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In a nutshell... Guild: [SYKO]	15% unconditional > 15^50 > 15% always (-5e) > 15% in stance > 15% enchanted > 20% hexed > 20v50 Remember that some skins are alot rarer than others (i.e. - serpent, stone summit, etc.). Ideally you'd have either a 15% unconditional axe (with perfect mods) or both a 15^50 and a 20v50 (with perfect mods) which you could keep switching between depending on your current health level. Hope this helps!

Apr 03, 2006, 04:15 AM // 04:15	#5
Mega Storm Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Iacon City Cybertron Guild: [MEGA] formerly EOE/LUST/LaZy Profession: W/N	Well I like to keep the energy I have for my build so the -5 energy versions just don't appeal to me. The suggested over/under "axe chucks" method seems like a win win to me but not sure i'll go that route. Thanks for clearing some of it up. I think my main question is this: is 15^50 not as good as 15 in stance?

Apr 03, 2006, 04:34 AM // 04:34	#6
Wrath Of Dragons Burninate Stuff Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New Mexico Profession: E/Mo	i like 15^50 because wether or not you are in a stance, you have bonus as long as you are healthy.

Apr 03, 2006, 08:07 AM // 08:07	#7
strcpy Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: One of Many [ONE]	Money wise the 15^50 obviously are better - just look at any "price check" forum, auction, or trade spam. Basically because the reasons above - they aren't build specific so greater demand. For your build? If, as you say, you are in a stance more often than you are greater then 50% health do you really need anyone here to tell you which to use? As for the always - run lower than 5 energy more often than you are in a stance or less than 50% health (that is, are you needing that 5 energy)? Again, do we really need to say after you answer that question? You could also mean best build/weapon combo - but that's not what you asked (and I have no idea the answer there - though I suspect that could go for pages and pages with no real answer ). "Best", combat wise, will most likely be several different stat axes for different situations (and builds if you change yours much). IIRC there are +20<50, "best" would also need one of them. Though I could be wrong - never found one of those beasties.

Apr 03, 2006, 12:43 PM // 12:43	#8
AxeMe Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta Guild: HEX Profession: W/	I think it depends a bit on your style of game play. For me, the 15% stance sword works fine. I also have a 15% always -5 energy. That doesn't present a big energy management problem when used with glads and equipped with a zealous hilt. The hilt really does a fine job keeping the energy charged - I started using the hilt for FOW spider runs and liked it so well that I've changed over several of my axes and swords from vampiric to zealous.

Apr 03, 2006, 04:21 PM // 16:21	#9
Ole Man Bourbon Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Atlanta Guild: GONG Profession: W/E	If you're using lots of stances or enchants, go with those. If not, 15^50. The rest aren't too good.

Apr 03, 2006, 04:35 PM // 16:35	#10
Boagrius Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Michigan Guild: DARK WOLVES DEN [WOLF] Profession: W/Mo	I apologize if I misunderstood your original question, but it sounds like you don???t quite understand the "while in a stance" mod. The "while in a stance" mod means you get the "-2 Damage or +15% whatever" while using a "Stance" skill. It sounds like you were saying "Well. I???m always in stance while fighting. So it's 15 always". "While in a "stance" doesn???t mean when you're just "standing" there fighting. It means when you???re using a "Stance" skill. Again, sorry if you already knew this & I misread your post.

Apr 03, 2006, 06:52 PM // 18:52	#11
Maria The Princess Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Aequitas Deis	15 while enchanted is good for team farming, cuz the warior is enchanted 99.999999% of all times. and whoever uses mending....

Apr 03, 2006, 07:15 PM // 19:15	#13
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	depends on your build. i rest my case

Apr 03, 2006, 09:28 PM // 21:28	#14
Rajamic Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005 Location: IA Guild: Chronicles of Heroes [CoH] Profession: R/Me	I think overall, 15%^50% is better in PvP for Warriors and Rangers, as they are rarely attacked before the fight is already decided. In PvE, Warriors generally run several stances to reduce the damage they take, so In Stance is quite good. Rangers can go either way really, since they shouldn't be getting attacked ever, but at the same time, should be using Tiger's Fury at least 70% of the time.

Apr 04, 2006, 02:34 AM // 02:34	#16
Maria The Princess Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Aequitas Deis	actually dont forget that if your hp drops below 50% you re in trouble so you better start spamming monk abd run like hell, not calculate damage dealt. so 15^50 is pretty much always, expetfor RARE cases when having like 30% of max hp doesnt bother you when fighting anouther warior or some boss. butnormally youre in trouble.

Apr 04, 2006, 03:25 AM // 03:25	#17
stickyballs Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: American Servers Guild: Sin Squad [SIN] Profession: W/	True Maria. 15^50 is good for when you're dealing damage. Unless you've got a build meant to have below 50%, at that point you are: a) running away b) trying to heal or get healed In anycase, most likely you are not trying to keep fighting (unless you are a suicide kinda guy).

Apr 04, 2006, 05:27 AM // 05:27	#18
Lateralus Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: W/Mo	Have one 15^50 and one 15\/50

Apr 04, 2006, 05:40 AM // 05:40	#20
Lateralus Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: W/Mo	oops.